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ATLANTIC CITY — The Atlantic County prosecutor's office continues to investigate the shooting death of 61-year-old Joyce McKinnon.

At this point, her killer remains at large.

McKinnon, a 61-year-old cocktail waitress, was shot dead last week inside her Venice Park home in the 1900 block of North Michigan Avenue.

She shared that home with her daughter's boyfriend, Sellers Ingram, 38 -- who was arrested and jailed one day earlier for the shooting death of Jamal David Smith, 19.

Investigators and the Atlantic County prosecutor have not commented on how the crimes may be linked.

Smith’s funeral service was held in Pleasantville Monday.

During the ceremony, the parking lot and streets surrounding the church were teeming with police cars, marked and unmarked.

Police cars converged behind a football field a block away and at the four-way stop sign in front of the church. Occasionally, the officers rolled down their car windows to ask people questions.

Meanwhile, people hugged and wore clothing adorned with Smith’s smiling face and chatted about his life.

The teen known as “Mal” enjoyed music and singing. He graduated from Pleasantville High School in June and was attending Harris School of Business in Linwood.

Smith was found shot near the Sassafras Run Apartments in Pleasantville at about 12:30 a.m. Dec. 8. Two days later, Ingram was charged with his slaying. The next day, McKinnon, a well-liked cocktail server at the Tropicana Casino and Resort, was fatally shot at home.

Neighbors in her quiet residential area Saturday declined to speak with a reporter about her death, citing concerns about possible retribution.

At the time McKinnon was killed, Ingram was incarcerated in the Atlantic County Justice Facility, where he remains on $1.5 million bail.

Ingram previously served eight years in prison on a weapons charge and was released in September 2008.

In 1999, Ingram was arrested after he and two others allegedly robbed and pistol-whipped a man in Pleasantville, according to a story in The Press of Atlantic City at the time. Ingram tried to flee the scene on a bicycle, but was caught by police, who said they found him in possession of a semi-automatic handgun.

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38 comments:

  • avatar Mr_609 (43) posts 12:24 pm

    I have to do this! I think I speak for both blaqluv and myself when I say,.... Grammar is a terrible thing to waste! Get yours together Infamous, or should I say Ignorant! Its good to see that we are on your mind! Also, nobody cares about who you are! Apparently you never passed English 101! FOOL!

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 5:33 pm

    Oh another thing to you two dum idiots, Blaqluv and MR ignorant 609.. Ingram is already locked up so incase you didn't know this his story has been told and another thing Ingram has relatives who are on the police force.. oh there were other people there too. Everyone knows Ingram is a Blood for those who know Ingram so you idiots stop pretending to be smart. I don't know why I even bother to wast my time chatting with you ignorant fools. Like I said, you don't know who I am and if you really knew who I am I think you would be really disappoint but I will allow you continue to speak what's on your mind. Maybe someday I will let you know who I really him.

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 5:25 pm

    TO DUM MR. 609, and TO Blacluv.. well I'm glad your smart enough to know what an IP address because I think most of you in Atlantic City are dumb and very ignorant majority of you don't even have a highschool education let along a degree. Like I said to you idiots I know Ingram and Mrs Joyce. That's all you need to know and one of the people who was there told the story. So I don't need to incriminate myself because I don't live there like I said you don't know me so lets keep it like that.. I'm surprise you ignorant fools know how to read the press and don't worry about my misspelled typo because I can type really fast and its no need to edit because your all are dumb and you sound stupid. I know many of you are getting lay off for most of you who work in the Casinos you need to broaden your horizons and try to move out of Atlantic City or New Jersey for that mather because you just too dumb fools..

  • avatar blaqluv (6) posts 9:16 am

    @ Infamous you sound like you know an awful lot like u might have been there. I agree with Mr_609 so keep on giving us the facts and incriminate urself. And ur right I dont know you and truthly I could care less who you are.

  • avatar Mr_609 (43) posts 7:55 pm

    The bottom line is, two lives have been lost over nonsense! May both of them rest in peace! What is the purpose in arguing now?! Since you all know so much, did you know that not only are you "incriminating" yourselves with these idiotic posts, the exact computer that you used to type all of your misspelled words can be traced by this little number called an IP address! So when dey come a nockin, dont be all scare'd and stuff....

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 6:57 pm

    @ Blaqluv,, your calling me in idiot and you don't know who I really am. I can't tell you this much Ingram shot Jamal in the arm, Jamal did have a gun. So Blaqluv watch your mouth. Jamal was asked to put the gun down he pointed at Ingrams face. Jamal and he was rapping Jamal skills were better but Jamal spit some skills and said something about the bloods. Ingram is a blood

  • avatar acnative (12) posts 5:56 pm

    Stop the hate!!!!!! No one deserves to have their life taken for any reason. If you are not part of the solution YOU are part of the problem!!!

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 3:21 pm

    Crying over you, I'm sorry to hear about your cousin's lost.. I really do, I would not want to wish death on anyone not even my worst enemy. You right I don't know your cousin but I do know Ingram n Mrs Joyce. There is a lot of things being said in the street. There're people from the streets who are saying the same thing about Jamal. "He use to be a good boy" these are from people that have no beef with Jamal but knows him. It has also been said that he had a gun on him doing the time he and Ingram was battling rap. He actually point the gun in Ingrams face. I don't know how true this is but it has been told.. however, I've gone to school with several good boys that made bad choices. There is one individual J. M use to be a straight A student very intelligent but now doing time for murder. There is a another guy name L. M who was a straight A student went to college come back to A.C has a felony for a gun charge. there was this one dude P, he was so quite but associated with the wrong crowd, he was muslim would be at his muslim stand on Atlantic Avenue everyday.. Until one day. we hear that he was killed. He and two other guys were robbing those Armor Money Trucks out in New York, they got away with at least twice and the third one lead to him being chase by the cops in a gun battle.. That's how my friends and I found out about his deaf. We had no clue that he was doing this mess. I have several affilates that I've party with throughout the years who have committed murder but I never thought they would do such a thing. Unfortunately, People change! What you remember of Jamal may not be the same Jamal you thought you knew today. I know ingram and he's been in and out of prison for theft, and robberies throughout his childhood. Never would I have thought he would kill someone, never would I have thought he would become a gang member of the "bloods" RIP TO JAMAL and MRS JOYCE! I JUST HOPE THEY FIND MRS JOYCE KILLER!

  • avatar Crying over U (2) posts 1:35 pm

    My cousin wasn't in a gang!!! The people he was friends with were in gangs. He was a good kid but hang out with the wrong people!! Only the people that knew him know who he was. We see people with other people and think o they just like them. If you don't know them then don't talk about them!! No one should lose their life like that!! My heart go's out the family of the woman that was killed. Two people killed for what, NOTHING!!!

  • avatar Crying over U (2) posts 1:35 pm

    My cousin wasn't in a gang!!! The people he was friends with were in gangs. He was a good kid but hang out with the wrong people!! Only the people that knew him know who he was. We see people with other people and think o they just like them. If you don't know them then don't talk about them!! No one should lose their life like that!! My heart go's out the family of the woman that was killed. Two people killed for what, NOTHING!!!

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 3:34 pm

    @ Joisey, I can't respect where you coming from of a lost of a child, I see you haven't gotten full story, I just believe you shouldn't make judgements until you get the full story. I also disagree with you making the comment that Ingram deserves a bullet. You don't have the full facts of what really happened forget what the media writes because they don't even have the full facts. Also, Jamal was 19 years old, yes a young adult who seem to be associated with the wrong people are does hang around the wrong people. I don't think he deserves to die either. I don't put a age on death because there are plenty of media coverage with children from the age 5 years old and up who have used a gun to kill a student, a parent, step mother and so forth.. so because Jamal was a 19 years of age doesn't me that his life was more valuable than Mrs Joyce. Real talk. the innocent victim was Mrs Joyce because 1) she works, she doesn't hang in the streets and she supports her family. There is no reason that this woman should have been killed in her own home. This was done intentionally, she didn't bring the drama to her the drama came to her because of a senseless act of two ignorant fools. So Jamal gets killed his friends or associates drives all the way to Atlantic City to go up to a house and begin shooting at a window where there live young children. Whoever killed Mrs Joyce didnt thing about who could have been in that house knowing that Ingram was already in custody.. How ignorant can a dumb fool be not to think about who could be on the other side of that wall or window.

  • avatar joisey (326) posts 11:16 am

    @unfamous...you seem to show hate for me because I din't mention the innocent woman that was murdered. I didn't express my sympathy because I had not read the story about her murder. I don't read every article, I read the headlines and then choose which ones to read. I usually read articles that have to do with children, and at 19 I consider him still a child. I commented because I think there is no greater loss than for a mother to loose her child. I don't know if he had a gun, didn't have a gun....I still feel the sadness for such a young man to be taken! if you don't like it, don't read my comments.

  • avatar blaqluv (6) posts 9:28 am

    @ infamous idiot... He did not have a shot gun

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 2:42 am

    @ joisey it doesn't sound like you have a job but if you do have a job your taxes won't even matter because there's really not much you can do about it. It's part of our norm and the people that are "sitting" in jail cells will remain there so you can just get over that, whether the rap killed, rob, whatever. Ingram will spent many years n jail only because of his criminal background. Also, there are people I know who've done 6-10 years in prison for murder. Lets hope that the idiot that killed Mrs Joyce isn't related to you, lets hope its not your son, your father, your cousin or brother because I will wish the same upon you and your family. The main focus on this is two people have lost their lives over some nonsense. Mrs Joyce was the innocent one her she was the victim,, Jamal well I'm sorry to hear that his life ended so shortly because I don't wish that upon my children but when young men surround themselves with around negativity or anytime of gang activites, carry guns etc. There seem to be a n issue that Jamal use to be a good boy gone bad. I've gone to school with plenty of so called nerds that grew up and became thugs... so don't make judgements on people without getting the full story. What was Jamal doing hanging around a repeated convict? I know if my children were good children who made good decisions and good friends. they would not be around convicts. Im just saying, what is wrong with that picture.

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 2:29 am

    TO JOISEY! It's Infamous, you idiot. Well, It does seem like you pay taxes to even really care about whether or not someone sits in jail. However, you sound very ignorant, That boy Jamal carried a gun. you can sugar coat it all you want either way both Jamal n ingram was involved into something or else Jamal wouldn't be where he is today. Whoever the ignorant fools that killed Mrs Joyce are the cowards who should be dealt with on the streets because they won't turn themselves it. There still is a murder the streets. They better pray that the police catch them first before its too late

  • avatar RIPAUNTIE09 (5) posts 10:35 pm

    NO WHAT I SPEAK IS THE TRUTH I FEEL THE SAME WAY IF SOMEONE TAKES A LIFE THEY DONT DESERVE TO BE HERE BUT WHAT I WAS SAYING EVERYONE THAT THE BOY HUNG AROUND WAS APART OF A GANG SO WHAT DOES THAT SAY I DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE NON SENSE PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT MY FAMILY WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF UNTIL EVERYTHING HAPPENED AND THE BOYS FRIENDS OR GANG MEMBERS SHOULD I SAY DO THIS TO MY AUNT SO LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR BUT LIKE I SAID HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE.

  • avatar joisey (326) posts 6:05 pm

    yeah well unfamous, some don't deserve to sit in a cell and be fed, kept warm, watch tv and whatever else these loosers have in prison. I don't want to waste even $5 on this skank that shot this young boy. so how am I a disgrace? because I think a murderer deserves to die? I think ur post shows who the stupid one is.

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 4:06 pm

    TO A.C Resident, this was more than just a rap battle, There has been some talk that Jamal use to be a good boy and he turned out to hang with the wrong crowd. The other thing that has been said that Jamal had a shotgun as well so you think you no someone when you really have no idea. Mrs Joyce was an innocent woman that resulted in her death. Obviously if Jamal was a good boy what was he doing around a convict, and also, obviously Jamal had to affilate with some negative people for someone to come to Atlantic City to get revenge on Ingrams family.

  • avatar blaqluv (6) posts 2:50 pm

    To RIP AUNTIE09 Let me start off by saying I am deeply sadened for your loss and I pray everyday for the family. That being said YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!! Jamal was not in a gang! He was a young man who graduated high school and continued to go to school after that. He was very interested in getting his life right and moving. Unfortunately he was surrounding himself around his old friends and people who werent moving in the same direction. Jamal didnt play with guns or life the live of a gangsta. People really need to stop listening to the streets and gossip and get it together as a people. Both murders were senseless and everyone has to meet their MAKERS and when they do!!!! HE WILL BE THE JUDGE AND JURY

  • avatar blaqluv (6) posts 2:50 pm

    To RIP AUNTIE09 Let me start off by saying I am deeply sadened for your loss and I pray everyday for the family. That being said YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!! Jamal was not in a gang! He was a young man who graduated high school and continued to go to school after that. He was very interested in getting his life right and moving. Unfortunately he was surrounding himself around his old friends and people who werent moving in the same direction. Jamal didnt play with guns or life the live of a gangsta. People really need to stop listening to the streets and gossip and get it together as a people. Both murders were senseless and everyone has to meet their MAKERS and when they do!!!! HE WILL BE THE JUDGE AND JURY

  • avatar blaqluv (6) posts 2:40 pm

    I just want to say to RIP AUNTIE09 That I am very sorry for your loss. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY that u too need to get ur facts straight. Jamal was NOT a gang member!!! He was a 19 yr old man going to school trying to better himself. Unfortunately had friends that chose to do nothing with their lives and was murdered due to a rap battle. That young man was a sweet kid who would give u the shirt off his back, change out his pocket, and shoes off his feet. It really bugs me when people listen to what everyone else says. Both murders were senseless and my heart aches everytime I think about Mrs. Joyce losing her life to a bullet after being on this earth for 61 yrs. I pray that the police bring her killer to justice

  • avatar AC_resident (1) posts 2:28 pm

    This is to RIPAUNTIE09...how do YOU know he wasn't a good guy...he was in the gang, and that gang killed people? If you have knowledge of those murders, shouldn't you go to the police? Why are you keeping it to youtself? Or is it you're just talking nonsense, and have NO idea of what you're talking about! You preach about facts, back up what you say or just shut up! Mourn your aunt, but there's no need to put others down in the process. Only real cowards and punk idiot morons do that. Is that what you are?

  • avatar BabyGirl5 (1) posts 2:22 pm

    WELL I FEEL AS THOUGH MAL NOR JOYCE SHOULD HAVE DIED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW KIDS & ADULTS CAN STAND AND LET GANG VIOLENCE STAND IN BETWEEN THEM. WE ALL LIVE IN THE SAME COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE FIGHTING EACHOTHER AND KILLING EACHOTHER OVER NONSENCE. IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT THROUGH A DAY WITHOUT FIGHTING OR SHOTTING, HOW CAN WE CAN WE MAKE IT ANYWHERE! ITS CRAZY HOW PEOPLE ARE DIEING AND GETTING LOCKED UP NOW & DAYS! BUT MAL WAS MY FRIEND & THATS JUST CRAZY HOW HE WAS HERE ONE DAY & NOW HE'S GONE. BUT MAL AND JOYCE ARE IN A BETTER PLACE & THERES NOTHING WE CAN DO TO BRING THEM BACK! TO THE FAMILYS OF BOTH I'D LIKE TO SAY SORRY FOR YOUR LOST!* r.I.p MALLY♥

  • avatar RIPAUNTIE09 (5) posts 1:33 pm

    FIRST OF ALL LET ME START OF BY SAYING THAT IS MY AUNT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT AND NO MATTER WHO MY COUSIN WAS INVOLVED IN DOES NOT MEAN MY AUNT DESERVE TO GET A FREAKING BULLET TO THE HEAD I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THE BOYS FAMILY BECAUSE HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE BUT ON THE REAL HE ALSO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LIVING THE LIFESTYLE EVERYONE MADE IT SEEM LIKE HE WAS A GOOD KID BUT NO ONE MENTIONED THAT HE WAS IN A GANG OR THE FACT THAT HE AND HIS GANG TOOK MANY LIVES BEFORE HIS LIFE WAS TAKEN I JUST FEEL ASHAMED THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN ASSUME FROM WHAT THEY HEAR AND JUST COMMENT GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU TALK EVERYONE THINK THIS IS OVER BUT IT'S NOT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO GET THE REST OF MY FAMILY BUT MY AUNT WAS LOVED NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG AND IT SADDEN ME SHE HAD TO LOSE HER LIFE OVER GANG VIOLENCE. AND THE COPS THINK THEY ARE DOING THERE JOB BUT WHERE WAS THEY WHEN WE CALLED IT TOOK THEM MORE THAN A HOUR TO COME. BUT THANK YOU ALL TO THE ONES THAT GAVE THERE CONDOLENCE

  • avatar RIPAUNTIE09 (5) posts 1:31 pm

    FIRST OF ALL LET ME START OF BY SAYING THAT IS MY AUNT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT AND NO MATTER WHO MY COUSIN WAS INVOLVED IN DOES NOT MEAN MY AUNT DESERVE TO GET A FREAKING BULLET TO THE HEAD I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THE BOYS FAMILY BECAUSE HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE BUT ON THE REAL HE ALSO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LIVING THE LIFESTYLE EVERYONE MADE IT SEEM LIKE HE WAS A GOOD KID BUT NO ONE MENTIONED THAT HE WAS IN A GANG OR THE FACT THAT HE AND HIS GANG TOOK MANY LIVES BEFORE HIS LIFE WAS TAKEN I JUST FEEL ASHAMED THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN ASSUME FROM WHAT THEY HEAR AND JUST COMMENT GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU TALK EVERYONE THINK THIS IS OVER BUT IT'S NOT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO GET THE REST OF MY FAMILY BUT MY AUNT WAS LOVED NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG AND IT SADDEN ME SHE HAD TO LOSE HER LIFE OVER GANG VIOLENCE. AND THE COPS THINK THEY ARE DOING THERE JOB BUT WHERE WAS THEY WHEN WE CALLED IT TOOK THEM MORE THAN A HOUR TO COME. BUT THANK YOU ALL TO THE ONES THAT GAVE THERE CONDOLENCE

  • avatar RIPAUNTIE09 (5) posts 1:31 pm

    FIRST OF ALL LET ME START OF BY SAYING THAT IS MY AUNT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT AND NO MATTER WHO MY COUSIN WAS INVOLVED IN DOES NOT MEAN MY AUNT DESERVE TO GET A FREAKING BULLET TO THE HEAD I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THE BOYS FAMILY BECAUSE HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE BUT ON THE REAL HE ALSO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LIVING THE LIFESTYLE EVERYONE MADE IT SEEM LIKE HE WAS A GOOD KID BUT NO ONE MENTIONED THAT HE WAS IN A GANG OR THE FACT THAT HE AND HIS GANG TOOK MANY LIVES BEFORE HIS LIFE WAS TAKEN I JUST FEEL ASHAMED THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN ASSUME FROM WHAT THEY HEAR AND JUST COMMENT GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU TALK EVERYONE THINK THIS IS OVER BUT IT'S NOT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO GET THE REST OF MY FAMILY BUT MY AUNT WAS LOVED NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG AND IT SADDEN ME SHE HAD TO LOSE HER LIFE OVER GANG VIOLENCE. AND THE COPS THINK THEY ARE DOING THERE JOB BUT WHERE WAS THEY WHEN WE CALLED IT TOOK THEM MORE THAN A HOUR TO COME. BUT THANK YOU ALL TO THE ONES THAT GAVE THERE CONDOLENCE

  • avatar hello2all (6) posts 12:23 pm

    Some of the comments on here are unnecessary. I live in the Pleasantville community and have done so all of my life. To actually villify and generalize a large amount of the population in a town based on the horrible actions of a few is totally unfair. I feel very badly for both families who have suffered such terrible tragedies. Hopefully, the suspect of the McKinnon murder will be found quickly.

  • avatar ACBT54 (23) posts 12:02 pm

    What do you mean MAYBE connected?? Why else would a church devoted, family devoted, hard working, honest woman be shot in her own bed?? Could it be she choose to do the right thing and turn in a murderer??? No wonder the neighbors wont talk,would anyone want to put their families in danger like Joyces daughter did??

  • avatar Infamous (14) posts 11:25 am

    To Joisey, I see why your first comment got deleted because you speak of stupidity, No one deserves a bullet to their head. You never know who could be reading this so you need to watch the words that come out of you mouth. Your just said for the mother of Jamal, well how about the mother that was killed in Venice Park she has a children and grandchildren that sad part this could have been your mother that got killed over something that did not involved her at all. The black in Pleasantville and Atlantic City is just a poor disgrace. Don't have nothing better to but drink, smoke, party and let petty words get the best of them to the point you get killed. Such a waste to society, n you Joisey seems to be a poor disgrace as a woman to say such a thing

  • avatar gchernya (58) posts 10:17 am

    Here the purpose of the raw video. Police believes that killed Pleasantville man was a member of drug dealer organization competitive to the one from where the killer came from. There is a possibility of presence of other members of that organization at the funeral, so police hope to identify them from the help of people who recognize the cars at the video. Once identified, friends of a killed man might be compelled to tell police about the competing organization, that possibly responsible for two murders now.

  • avatar joisey (326) posts 9:44 am

    so I see they deleted my comment on the stupidity of the RAW VIDEO. let these people mourn this child. whether you delete my comment or not....you still look lame sitting in a car videoing parked cars at a funeral.

  • avatar gchernya (58) posts 9:42 am

    I am not jumping to conclusions, I just do not believe in coincidence. The only thing I do not know for sure, if the Pleasantville killer arrest was the result of in information obtained from cocktail waitress. Ironically, it might not be so, but criminals involved had a reason to believe it was (for instance, if she confronted her daughter in aftermath of the arrest, and used the wrong words). That was the end of her.

  • avatar joisey (326) posts 9:40 am

    I am so sad for the mother of this young man that was shot. this was her baby ingram deserves no less than a bullet.

  • avatar scraps1 (33) posts 9:25 am

    Hey gchernya, perhaps you should not jump to conclusions. You have no information to base your varying theories on, but it does not stop you from espousing them all. The cops closed out the first murder hopefully they will get the perp in this one. And when you talk of failure, speak about the failure of the community. It is the community that is failing, young men murdered in the crowded streets and no one ever sees anything. And don't feed me the line that they will get killed, I'm sure the government has programs to move them, but they don't want to leave their crummy neighborhood. You want change, how about you get loud mouth Steve Young and city council to start paying attention to the violence.

  • avatar gchernya (58) posts 8:58 am

    Well, if the waitress turn out to be killed in retaliation for reporting her daughter boyfriend to police (which is likely, as he was quickly arrested after commission of the crime), the whole picture is not pretty. It is a question if police negligence is involved in failure to protect witness, but there is no question some sort of gullibility was there. Was the waitress careless enough to confront her daughter, who in turn complained to her boyfriend friends? Or the arrested man put two and two together himself, and ordered an execution of potentially damaging whiteness/mother in law from behind the bars? In any case it is a situation demonstrating how dangerous the justice system became for the ordinary person. The cocktail waitress lived under one roof with the thug for a time, but after sloppy hand of the law got involved, she lost her life to the dark underworld she managed to maneuver around on her own for the big part of her life. My wife and kid sleep with chambered handguns under the mattress. I know enough about the habits of the underworld not to exclude the bedroom as battlefield for survival.

  • avatar B4real (441) posts 2:03 am

    What's the connection??? Another violent criminal let back on the street to just claim more victims. This is the state of the total break down in the black ghetto community, liberal judges, the no-snitching culture and denial of the reality of the truth.

  • avatar Tin Lizzy (150) posts 7:07 pm

    I saw the same video on "Wild Nature" on PBS. Lotsa bonobos.

  • avatar elguapo (7) posts 6:14 pm

    What is the purpose of this video? It looks like the videographer is a stalker. Leave thes e people alone for God's sake!

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